Issue 260, November 1997
[lead in]
Deborah Conway, former singer of Do Re Mi and successful solo artist in her
own right has been quiet on the local front of late.
After releasing Bitch Epic a couple of years ago she took off to England
with her partner and baby.
In her absence she recorded a new album, My Third Husband and is back in
the country to promote it.
Dave Lornie had the pleasure of a chat with Deborah and found her to be an
intelligent and thoughtful lady.
[quote over pic of dc]
"I can't help but be politically-motivated. Its very hard not to have an
opinion these days. The things that we're losing are too large and too
phenomenal, too long-lasting for you not to have an opinion about it."
[quote over pic #2 of dc]
"Andy's got a wonderful sick paranoid approach to music and I love what he
did to ours."
[the article]
It's a steamy Sydney afternoon and even the air conditioners in the record
company offices cant quite take all the heat out of the air. I am
introduced to Deborah and immediately not the oversized yet stylish
maternity dress she's wearing. The heat has given a slight crimson hue to
her perfect olive skin, she looks a touch hot and bothered but is otherwise
composed. "Do you mind if I sit on the sofa" she asks, "in my condition I
should be sitting there!" As I congratulate her on her pregnancy she fixes
me with a wide, and I dare say unintentionally, sexy smile. "You noticed,"
she croons, "it must be the buttons that give it away."
Q. Why did you choose to live in England?
A. Well, there were lots of reasons the promise of being able to put a
record out there, and I had a British passport and I just wanted to walk
around the corner and see something different.
Q. Was it a productive time?
A. There were fantastic jewels of moments when we did some fantastic music.
Q. Has Australia changed in your absence?
A. Despite the fact of being away I wasn't cut off, I was in touch via the
Internet and had a clipper here so I was up to date with all the
Darville/Demidenko debate - absolutely extraordinary. And so fantastic
that Australia should have a literary scandal on its front pages, and I
thought it was, you know, very much a coming of age. And Hanson, the
problems with Pauline and an unfortunate change of government with a
subsequent regression back to the conservative 1950's. Ive also seen
interesting changes in the other hemisphere. When I arrived it was the end
of the Tory eighteen year rule, which was swept away by an overwhelming
labour majority. We've been living in interesting times - as the Chinese
curse goes 'may you not live in interesting times.'
Q. Are you politically motivated?
A. I can't help but be politically motivated. It's very hard not to have
an opinion in these days. I mean, maybe that's the best thing this
particular government could have done for this country. It's galvanised
people, it's polarised them. You cant possibly be a fence sitter, the
things that are happening - it's really extraordinary. The things that
we're losing are too large and too phenomenal, too long lasting for you not
to have an opinion about it.
Q. The new album has a lot of electronics on it. Is that a new direction
for you?
A. Well, I very much doubt that I'll be making another Sting Of Pearls
after this record. I don't think ii can call myself on of those artists
who has found a vision and then needs to stick with it over and over again
like Van Morrison or Nick Cave or people that have found what they want to
say and find interesting and many different ways to say it. I am restless.
I am restless geographically and I'm restless emotionally and I'm restless
musically. And I don't know what I'll do next. Yes, I'd have to agree
with you, this record is very different from the first two. I think this
springs more directly from Ultrasound. It also springs directly from the
England experience, the fact that we didn't have a whole bunch of musicians
we could get to come around. We were left to our own resources.
Q. Was the musical vibe different to sing on this record?
A. I think it's a very intimate sort of a record. Someone accused me of
not singing to anybody, that I was only singing to myself. I think they
meant it as a compliment. I think that they meant it as a compliment.
Maybe that's true. Vocally, I'm singing very different to my last two
records, too. I think I'm singing much more from within, within myself,
within my range as apposed to stretching and reaching and grasping for
things over it.
Q. The album over is very interesting. It conjures up images of the WWII
years.
A. I was trying to strike the ambiguous image between grieving widow and
blushing bride.
I think you've very successfully captured that.
DC. Thank you.
Q. On the album you worked with Andy Cox from Fine Young Cannibals and
Martin Swain from World Party. How were they to work with?
A. They were very enthusiastic about our record. Martin was fantastic and
Andy's got a wonderful sick paranoid approach to music and I love what he
did to ours. And Martin's just so solid I hadn't picked either of them on
the basis of their bands. I wanted to work with Dave Anderson because I
really liked the Fine Young Cannibals and he'd engineered them, and also
The Sundays. He bought Andy Cox into the picture. And Martin Swain was
running a little gig [and] I wanted to play at his club. We played there
and he really liked what we were doing and asked if we needed a bass
player. I didn't at the time but curiously enough I did some months later
and happened to bump into him on the tube!
Q. Did you find a cultural cringe towards Australians in England?
A. There still is a feeling that Australians aren't taken terribly
seriously there but then there's a love/hate relationship too because they
have a lot of Australian television, Kylie Minogue, Peter Andre and Jason
Donovan have been taken warmly to their bosom, so they're (pause) not sure.
I guess it's a slightly mocking, although essentially loving, older
sibling that cant help but make fun of the younger one. Maybe it's a bit
like that. I think its up to Australia to turn itself into a Republic and
be more protectionist about its music and take itself more seriously before
anyone else does.
Q. Where did the intriguing title of the album [MTH] come from?
A. (languidly) I am the Zsa Zsa Gabor of the Antipodes. (laughs)
Q. Is it hard to balance being a mother and an independent woman?
A. Motherhood wins everytime. They're very demanding, children - they're
fantastic you only get it once and then they're gone, and then its years
and years of therapy for all the things you did wrong. (laughs)
Q. How do you define success?
A. If you set yourself a series of goals and you achieve them, that's
success. To first of all be happy with your work and then for other people
to acknowledge that your work is good and that you've somehow tapped into
the zeitgeist - that's success. From time to time I have achieved it
although one tends to always be a little dissatisfied, I've found.